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Anyone know this bloke?

Postby ggn » Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:23 am

While surfing around I came across this page:

http://www.edge-online.co.uk/archives/2 ... rogram.php

"Demos on Atari ST"?
"a bit of hacking"?

Anyone knows what alias did he use?
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Postby earx » Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:22 am

the british st demo scene wasn't that big.. okay okay, bigger than the one in holland for sure ;)) but the amount of crackers was huge.

some of the british demo crews:

- Pixels twins (guys with sunglasses? ;))
- Chaos (including Tat of later Avena)
- Electronic images (including Griff)
- POV (MSD)
- The Lost Boys (Dave and Tim Moss were in there IIRC.. don't know the others..)
- The Mega Four (This guy was a good rapper too i heard, but it's certainly not the guy in the interview ;))

there should be more.. but i just can remember them atm. my personal guess is this guy might have been a cracker (one of many in the U.K.) and never got his real name revealed?

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Postby Mug UK » Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:50 am

Indeed there are a lot of old skool crackers who's real names we do not know .. the only "mystery" British cracker that springs to mind is A-Ha .. one of the first people to do ST cracked games as well.
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Postby ggn » Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:28 am

earx wrote:the british st demo scene wasn't that big.. okay okay, bigger than the one in holland for sure ;)) but the amount of crackers was huge.


Well, compared to the greek Atari ST demo/crack scene everything is huge ;)

The only person that I knew that was a "hacker" was a guy called "John Ace", and he just did hex editings of cracktros (those that printed a simple text on screen :))

Now.... Greek Atari demo coders? Hmmmm... sorry, can't remember of anyone!

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Postby sinigord » Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:07 am

It's SNURKEL!

Looks like he did ok for himself!

Mike W and myself know Chris from way back.....

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Postby ggn » Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:10 am

sinigord wrote:It's SNURKEL!

Looks like he did ok for himself!

Mike W and myself know Chris from way back.....


Was he on any group or he was just playing it solo?
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Postby Mug UK » Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:59 am

If it's the two guys from poo that recognise him, he could well be ex-Automation perhaps?

The Pixel Twins really was (from memory) two guys I used to know in Wandsworth, London but one of them (Nod) moved up to Lanarkshire to be with his penpal (and subsequently married her I think). The other guy was an albino who was damn good with his art on his Amstrad and later on his ST.

But neither of them were coders of any note, think that was all the work of Douglas (insert surname here!) who went on to do PhotoChrome and other programs?
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Postby ggn » Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:28 am

muguk wrote:But neither of them were coders of any note, think that was all the work of Douglas (insert surname here!) who went on to do PhotoChrome and other programs?


I think I read somwehere that (insert forename here!) Little was a member of TPT?
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Postby Mug UK » Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:32 am

Yep .. he was in the Scottish section but the STOS demo they released was (I think) mostly by Nod (Nod = Noel Wallace http://freespace.virgin.net/noel.w/Nodpage1.htm) and Phil (can't remember his surname but he's got a STOS-based picture slideshow on the Floppyshop collection - DEM419C - done under his moniker of PCM) ..

I've no idea how much input Douglas Little had at the time. Maybe that was later on when they did other demos, but according to the Floppyshop CD, there weren't many productions. Two megademos and 1 raytrace demo is all I can find.

A "Douglas Little" appears on Exotica as one of the coders for Chase HQ 2 though .. maybe one and the same?
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Postby ggn » Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:18 am

muguk wrote:A "Douglas Little" appears on Exotica as one of the coders for Chase HQ 2 though .. maybe one and the same?


Also, a "Douglas Little" appears in the credits of Cisqo Heat as "STE Features" programmer or something. Might be him.
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Postby prog99 » Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:48 pm

sinigord wrote:It's SNURKEL!

Looks like he did ok for himself!

Mike W and myself know Chris from way back.....

Oh dear, so it is. Doesnt he know that the world would fall apart without cobol.
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Postby prog99 » Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:52 pm

muguk wrote:If it's the two guys from poo that recognise him, he could well be ex-Automation perhaps?

The Pixel Twins really was (from memory) two guys I used to know in Wandsworth, London but one of them (Nod) moved up to Lanarkshire to be with his penpal (and subsequently married her I think). The other guy was an albino who was damn good with his art on his Amstrad and later on his ST.

But neither of them were coders of any note, think that was all the work of Douglas (insert surname here!) who went on to do PhotoChrome and other programs?

I think Dougie went on to write console games(as well as falcon stuff)
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Re: Anyone know this bloke?

Postby dml » Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:59 pm

The 'other' original TPT guy was Philip Matthews - quite a character, did amazing stuff with POVRay (actually rendered level tiles for our Jaguar game in it!). Lost track of him when the games company we were working for went bust - which is a shame because he did some interesting stuff. He made the 'scorpion' logo for BSS & Apex a bit later (also in POV).

There were some other TPT guys (AndyY = 'Highlander') but the TPT coders pretty much got absorbed into BSS after that...

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Postby MiggyMog » Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:23 pm

What is the status of Black Scorpian software? Could Apex now be included with the other 'pixel painters' for prosperity? http://dhs.nu/files.php?t=pixelpainter
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Postby nativ » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:40 pm

Mug UK wrote:Indeed there are a lot of old skool crackers who's real names we do not know .. the only "mystery" British cracker that springs to mind is A-Ha .. one of the first people to do ST cracked games as well.



I did find one of the MYSTERONS in Dorset at an undisclosed location, he'd even bought an Satan Disk! :D If anyones is really after contacting I could dig up his details
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Re: Anyone know this bloke?

Postby dml » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:01 pm

@MiggyMog - BSS is long gone and I don't mind making my stuff available. There are a few things that other people worked on mostly themselves (like the 030 debugger, Videlity) and I'd like to get in touch with them before making their stuff available, if they haven't done so already. There were some other bits and pieces that people didn't finish such as Dextrous and the ST/E 'version/prequel' of Apex - I'm still trying to find some of that material and/or get it to work for screenies or demos.

The stuff I worked on myself (and can find) will be appearing on my site over the next few weeks for D/L.

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Postby Frank B » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:37 pm

I've got Dave m contact details if you need them for fidelity.

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Postby maergrey » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:33 pm

earx wrote:the british st demo scene wasn't that big.. okay okay, bigger than the one in holland for sure ;)) but the amount of crackers was huge.

some of the british demo crews:

- Pixels twins (guys with sunglasses? ;))
- Chaos (including Tat of later Avena)
- Electronic images (including Griff)
- POV (MSD)
- The Lost Boys (Dave and Tim Moss were in there IIRC.. don't know the others..)
- The Mega Four (This guy was a good rapper too i heard, but it's certainly not the guy in the interview ;))

there should be more.. but i just can remember them atm. my personal guess is this guy might have been a cracker (one of many in the U.K.) and never got his real name revealed?


I've met Griff from Electronic images which must of been sometime in 1990. How the years just fly by lol ;)

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Postby calimero » Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:06 pm

dml wrote:The stuff I worked on myself (and can find) will be appearing on my site over the next few weeks for D/L.


and what is URL of site? :)
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Postby dml » Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:20 am

calimero wrote:and what is URL of site? :)


The site is being built here: http://www.leonik.net/dml/sec_atari.py

...although there is not much to see yet - it will take time to test, upload and document everything. I have already found a heap of stuff I just don't remember very well.

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Postby Mug UK » Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:01 pm

Found a disk labelled TPT Utils the other day. Any use or do you already have it?
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Postby dml » Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:22 pm

Mug UK wrote:Found a disk labelled TPT Utils the other day. Any use or do you already have it?


Thanks. Maybe it contains something I lost. :)


The source I found is for v3.00 - not the last version :-/ But IIRC the main changes with V4 involved file formats, resizing and stuff, maybe some conversion issues - not much with the display code (yep, just checked the change history). I'll keep looking for V4 source but chances are it's toast.

The display code is the only part I need for a new version anyway and there isn't a bit that can't be redone.

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Postby dml » Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:34 am

MiggyMog wrote:...Could Apex now be included with the other 'pixel painters' for prosperity? http://dhs.nu/files.php?t=pixelpainter


Yes - it's now available on my site for d/l for anyone who's still interested. I am slowly but surely getting through my archives.

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Postby Brume » Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:30 am

nativ wrote:
Mug UK wrote:Indeed there are a lot of old skool crackers who's real names we do not know .. the only "mystery" British cracker that springs to mind is A-Ha .. one of the first people to do ST cracked games as well.



I did find one of the MYSTERONS in Dorset at an undisclosed location, he'd even bought an Satan Disk! :D If anyones is really after contacting I could dig up his details


Hi nativ,
Are you still in contact with the member of the Mysterons? I'd be very interested in!
Thank you.


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